i`m wondering just when and why the g.b.of jw`s made the change as they did to their official magazine.?.
at first they were advertising his presence long before they claim he actually arrived .. 1879 was the first wt wasn`t it ?
and their advertising his presence ,when according to their beliefs he din`t actually arrive with his presence until 1914.?.
At first they were advertising his presence long before they claim he actually arrived .
They believed Jesus came invisibly in 1874. The Watch Tower was first published in 1879.
They announced something they believe had already happened, they just changed their failed beliefs down the road.
(And even the 1874 doctrine was already the result of failed predictions!)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschatology_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses, see the section 'Early expectations'.
mormon missionaries move around during their two-year preaching missions, but the phones they use remain in the different preaching locations.
this means that contact details of “interested persons” are routinely passed on from one missionary pair to the next, when the phone is handed over.
in order to comply with the new data protection rules, missionaries now ask for consent to keep data from their contacts.
why are JWs acting as if the new
data rules mean an absolute end to
the collection any meaningful data
on the ministry?
If Watchtower would use the Mormon approach they would knock down one of their default knock down defenses in courts and legal procedures: all JW activities are strictly personal activities by individual JW.
They argue this in Russian courts wrt meetings and preaching.
They argue this in USA courts when it comes to elders handling CSA cases.
The cart witnessing instructions tell the JW to stress that their activities with the cart are personal activities of anyone asks, and any permits should be put to a personal name rather than the congregation.
They tried arguing preaching is wholly personal in Europe to get out from under GDPR.
Hell, it can be said that even appointing elders is a personal activity of COs.
Why does Watchtower do this? To evade liability and responsibility. They don't want anyone coming after them or their money.
Adopting the Mormon GDPR procedures would tell everyone that preaching is a centrally organized corporate effort.
(Well, since the courts everywhere already saw through the 'personal activity' nonsense they might just as well do as Mormons do wrt GDPR)
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@Petra,
I was wondering: are the files you're posting leaked only here?
Or are they also submitted to some more search-friendly repositories like http://faithleaks.org and/or http://www.watchtowerwayback.org?
hi, .
i would like to delete all my post on this forum, particularly topics i have started.
how do i do that?.
this has come up recently with two family members who are jws.
if they are talking about this you can bet that others are too.
they seem to be all excited that a lot of attention in the news right now is about climate change, greta, extinction rebellion etc... as you can image they are very smug saying see.
It's very interesting that neither Jesus nor Paul mentioned man-made eco-disasters in their lengthy discussions of the times of the end.
Seems like they weren't aware anything like that could happen. They only mentioned things they had already seen in their own lives.
Almost as if they didn't have any divine insights.
Luckily the Bible contains plenty of oddly worded verses that can be beat to say anything you want.
And thus we can boldly proclaim the Bible already foretold the current environmental predicament, even though it really is completely silent on the topic.
matt 28: 19 is the year text.
new understanding on joel ch 2 who are the locusts?.
there is a new building addition to warwick in the works.
@Gorby,
No, I never heard of Moutainbrook. Please tell me more?
Normally investors are in a project for the profit.....hmmm....
matt 28: 19 is the year text.
new understanding on joel ch 2 who are the locusts?.
there is a new building addition to warwick in the works.
I wonder what corporate entity owns that new building they're building.
Would it be the same as the one that owns the other buildings? Or is this a backup plan in case all other buildings have to be sold to cover csa payments?
Just wild speculation of course....but not entirely beyond what lawyers would be able to come up with..
matt 28: 19 is the year text.
new understanding on joel ch 2 who are the locusts?.
there is a new building addition to warwick in the works.
Yes, it's a printed study edition of the NWT (Matthew - Acts)
More photos here
I see they even dumbed down the Bible. They added pictures to make it a graphic novel....
well she went off to the big convention this morning.
as she left i ventured a bare tiny 'dont give them money' 'they have millions.
' she spun back, (we are on pensions.).
and you should see what they spend on relief' was her hissed reply.
Just this week I saw a JW claim that Watchtower spends about 40 million USD per year on disaster relief. He tried to make JW look positive by doing so. I asked him to provide a source for his claim but so far no answer.
Assuming he's right, Watchtower spends almost nothing of the money they take in on disaster relief.
They spend more on paying of victims of abuse than they do on disaster relief.
They take in billions each year worldwide. And they spend 40M on disaster relief?
Lol.
I'd ask your wife just how much do they spend on relief works? She appears to know....
in one country they're david and sophie.
in another they're petra and olena.
i just chanced across this recently.
David and Sofie is what they're called in the Netherlands.
'Caleb' and 'Sofia' are very, very rare names around here.
To compare: Only about 200 people in the Netherlands are called Caleb or Kaleb as either their first or second name.
David is around 30.000 (alternative spellings like Dávid, Davíd etc. not even included) people.
If they would have gone with Caleb even Dutch JW would roll their eyes over the cultiness. But with 'David' it's still a Biblical name, but much more common.
